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godsell4

Posts: 397

« Reply #90 on: May 15, 2007, 10:00:36 am »


Yes Jim, see 6 posts higher, I have very strong evidence that points to the same conclusion. Sad

SW.

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jabns

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« Reply #91 on: May 15, 2007, 10:03:32 am »

I think Plus Net just needed a new central so sold all of its 220,000+ customers emails. Watch out for the letters through the post next wink . <--- Just a joke not a conspiracy --->

On a serious note the way i have found the best is to make a mailbox using a formula like this:
f9-mbox-001-james     <--- Obviously not my real mail box and is just an example --->

and then a redirect as followed:
james @xxx-xxxxxxx.co.uk

I find this better way of doing things because then if SPAM starts to hit you badly you just change the forward.

I am also setting up a parimeter gateway spam checker so that they get bounced before i even start to download them. I would highly recommend this because the modem just forwards PPP to the gateway you do not use any bandwidth downloading crap!  grin
« Last Edit: May 15, 2007, 10:11:54 am by jabns »

RogN

Posts: 21

« Reply #92 on: May 15, 2007, 10:17:58 am »

Remind me, wasn't there a couple of other instances of PN having their data compromised?

Perhaps they should have a new nickname "sieve"

I only use my email from PN for their contacts, well until now when the world uses it for porn type contact.

No good taking emails out of the public eye, once got they never leave them alone and each week the spam level goes up exponentially.

Trouble with using filters is that I have not found one that does not miss one sometimes. The last contact from PN one got through on one address and the other got labelled "spam".

If its PN's fault they will just have to pay for all the changes for customers emails to be renewed and also any fines from breach of data protection. You would think an ISP company would have enough computer power to work seriously on preventing this, especially with their past track record. Guess its about how much you are bothered about customer details.
Tam

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« Reply #93 on: May 15, 2007, 10:22:04 am »

Remind me, wasn't there a couple of other instances of PN having their data compromised?


Yep.

The Flying Gribble

Posts: 18

« Reply #94 on: May 15, 2007, 10:23:35 am »

The only connection between the two is that mails have been sent to it from PlusNet possibly by webmail.

Were they just sent from WebMail, or were the addresses in the WebMail Address Book? The former implies access to the messages themselves I guess.
Oldjim

Posts: 1016

« Reply #95 on: May 15, 2007, 10:30:50 am »

Just sent from webmail I think
The Flying Gribble

Posts: 18

« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2007, 10:54:33 am »

Just saw this on the front page of TBB

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We have checked with Plusnet and they can confirm that no credit card details or personal information has been obtained by the third party.

wildmind
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« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2007, 10:57:54 am »

Would have been nice for them to confirm it when asked in numerous places rather than giving vague non-commital answers :@
James

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« Reply #98 on: May 15, 2007, 10:58:48 am »

I accept they are busy right now, and yes, I've read the SS's but its a shame that a similar statement wasn't made to help allay fears a little here (and on the portal boards)

I'll add note to the thread on the PN portal.

Best Wishes - James

Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb
RogN

Posts: 21

« Reply #99 on: May 15, 2007, 11:11:15 am »

Quite ironic, my PUG notices are being labelled as "Spam"

If they know what has not been breache, they must know what has, both pieces of information sadly missing in an easy to see way. Many forums are now debating this and members have to go chase the information. Not as though what has happened to our details is much of interest to us, is it?
Oldjim

Posts: 1016

« Reply #100 on: May 15, 2007, 11:22:11 am »


Yes Jim, see 6 posts higher, I have very strong evidence that points to the same conclusion. Sad

SW.
Just seen this reply by Ian over at TBB
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As Bob was saying yesterday, if anyone knows of an address that they don't believe has ever touched webmail then they should send him a PM with the details so we can check. From all of those yesterday, we didn't find any without a Webmail based explanation - The one I looked at personally had been sent an email by a Comms member of staff from Webmail (Presumably someone working from home and following up a forum thread). I'm presuming Bob is coming back to people who enquire about specific addresses with more detail, but if he hasn't yet please do bear with us - As you can imagine we are working to a tight plan today...

Ian
To me this reads that any email sent from webmail has had all the addresses harvested - I hope I am wrong
mikeb

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« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2007, 11:25:14 am »

Oh yes indeedy, yet more and more of that luverly spam.  yum.yum.yum. I am now completely spoiled for choice as to how to enhance the size and performance my c**k so that I can c*m loads and ej*****te well when I f**k  angry  I'm so pleased that I don't have to worry about that any more.

It would appear that whilst I can be very careful for around 10 years and protect myself totally from this kinda [Censored] and other disasters whilst openly using my e-mail address and other personal data, PN can't be careful for more than 10 minutes at a time Sad  As mentioned by someone else above, it aint anywhere close to the first occasion that this or something vaguely similar has happened either. 

People seem to be saying earlier that this is a 'webmail' thing - it can't be, or at least not solely. I have never used webmail in most cases and the only time I did was probably >5 years ago and then only to check the contents of my inbox not send stuff etc. It simply has to be a far more serious breach than someone hacking webmail or suchlike.  Am I p*$$ed off right now or am I p*$$ed off right now.

Every single e-mail address/mailbox that I have ever used over the past 10 years is now a getting spammed for the first time. Exxxxxcelent stuff. Jolly well done chaps so have one of these right now and seeing that a picture always says a thousand words and all that, I think this sums up my thoughts on whatever the whole sorry tale is quite nicely:

« Last Edit: May 15, 2007, 11:30:23 am by mikeb »

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WARNING: The e-mail address on my profile is not my usual address, all messages sent via this site have been redirected elsewhere for test purposes. This could result in messages not being received in a timely manner or potentially not being received at all.
godsell4

Posts: 397

« Reply #102 on: May 15, 2007, 11:39:44 am »

I hope I am wrong

I am a frayed knot. Sad

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Penny

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« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2007, 11:44:51 am »

Oh yes indeedy, yet more and more of that luverly spam.  yum.yum.yum.

Given that this is a publicly-accessible forum that kids of any age can view, I don't feel it's appropriate to include the sort of detail (starred or not) that appears in Post # 101 above.

Perhaps such references could be modified somewhat?

We're all substantially teed off with this situation (which appears to be getting worse in terms of volume of related spam currently being received) but that doesn't make it necessary to go into graphic detail of the spam content.

Just my thoughts Sad

Penny.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2007, 11:53:00 am by Penny »

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godsell4

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« Reply #104 on: May 15, 2007, 11:45:45 am »

OK, with this issue, if it happens that our e-mails have been compromised and this list has been sold/copied to the WWW then I respectfully ask PN to implement a system similar to postini (www.postini.com) so that we no longer have to download SPAM and virus infected messages.

Lets see if this problem persists. If it does I will start a Poll on the portal forum.

I certainly hope PUG will support this request.

regards,
SW.

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