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godsell4

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« Reply #90 on: December 08, 2006, 02:31:33 pm »

Especially with the "unlimited off-peak usage" that PAYG users get.

I have to say that I was suprised when PN announced this for those on PAYG as it is contrary to the concept of PAYG, especially if as I understand with CBC it means PN are charged per GB of data transferred by BT.

SW.

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pjmarsh
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« Reply #91 on: December 08, 2006, 02:50:02 pm »

I think you are getting confused with Usage Based Charging (UBC).  With CBC the provider buys pipes of BT, and pay exactly the same weather they cram them full or leave them empty.

Phil
godsell4

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« Reply #92 on: December 08, 2006, 03:07:45 pm »


Aaaaahhhh, Yep that'll be it, and so explains a lot with regards to how the 'off peak' usage is in fact all paid for .. kind'a.

SW.

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pjmarsh
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« Reply #93 on: December 08, 2006, 03:46:00 pm »

The point of having the unmetered off peak is to encourage some people to move their downloads from the busier times to the quieter times.  ISP's need to buy their capacity to meet the peak requirments.  There is plenty of 'waste' off peak.

Phil
Laser

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« Reply #94 on: December 08, 2006, 05:03:00 pm »

And in fairness it would pretty much work with me.  tongue

If I knew I wanted a one-off 500MB+ download, being on a PAYG package I'd wait until off-peak to get it "free". Which is exactly what PN want, so we're all happy.
godsell4

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« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2006, 08:57:56 pm »


So whats next? The aim for zero packet drop on Gold has not happened. It hit 100/s on Sunday and is at +400/s as I write this message.

SW.

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godsell4

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« Reply #96 on: December 11, 2006, 10:15:51 pm »


I have to ask some questions.

This thread was started on Nov/16th. Really there has been no stable improvement in this situation at peak times.

Apart from start a thread to collect information from people. What is PUG doing? I really hope you have more information about this than is being made available and have some confidence the root causes for the problems are understood and being rectified.

I am hoping wildmind or kitz can give a wink or nod on this subject.

It will not be long before I start a thread on the main portal asking for mass rebates/refunds. The service I am paying for is not of Satisfactory Quality.

SW.

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portmoak

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« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2006, 10:17:58 am »

It will not be long before I start a thread on the main portal asking for mass rebates/refunds. The service I am paying for is not of Satisfactory Quality.

Does anyone know of a reasonable definition of 'merchantable quality' as regards an ISP?

Accounts theadamsons and portmoak
F9 customer since 1998.
godsell4

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« Reply #98 on: December 12, 2006, 11:42:34 am »


It is simpler than you think, it is a matter of comparing products from different vendors that are of a similar price and specification, and then finding out how well do they perform compared to each other. Another option is to look at the other products from the same vendor, e.g. Premier 1, 2 and 3 accounts, and then find out how well they perform comapred to each other. If you found that Premier3 really was no better then Option1 or PAYG, you might argue you are getting no apparent benefit for paying the full cost of Premier3.

A food example is always good, just before lunch time.

If you get a burger from the best burger shop in the whole UK for 10/burger, and if MacDonalds claimed to have the same and charged 10, and it became obvious the MacDonalds 10 burger was the same as MacDonalds 2 burger offering, you would rightfully get a refund ... or better, go  elsewhere and get MacDonalds to pay for the 10 burger from elsewhere.

SW.

BBYW1/10GB
godsell4

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« Reply #99 on: December 13, 2006, 05:47:29 pm »


todays update ... http://usertools.plus.net/status/archive/1166030333.htm

SW

BBYW1/10GB
Laser

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« Reply #100 on: December 13, 2006, 09:51:44 pm »

I'm a fairly low use PAYG customer and my peak-time speeds have been much better over the last 2-3 days than they have been for a long while. grin

I just hope it lasts!  tongue

godsell4

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« Reply #101 on: January 10, 2007, 11:53:27 pm »


Seems all gateways have some level of Gold packet drops. Is this a 'reporting error' as we like to call them or a real issue?

If the latter, what is the action being taken?

SW.

BBYW1/10GB
jelv1

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« Reply #102 on: January 11, 2007, 12:35:46 am »

May be today's service status announcement signals something is actually being done - we can only hope.

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We will be conducting a live test on our newly installed Juniper E320 core ADSL router (thn-ag2). This will involve connecting a small number of broadband customers via this gateway to check routing and perform a number of diagnostic checks.

jelv
jelv1

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« Reply #103 on: January 11, 2007, 12:32:18 pm »

Oh drat, I've just found out that my PAYG account is going to cost me 50p a month more from now on.

jelv
jelv1

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« Reply #104 on: January 11, 2007, 02:07:04 pm »

May be today's service status announcement signals something is actually being done - we can only hope.

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We will be conducting a live test on our newly installed Juniper E320 core ADSL router (thn-ag2). This will involve connecting a small number of broadband customers via this gateway to check routing and perform a number of diagnostic checks.

Come on lets have more on this - does this portend some good news?

jelv
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