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wildmind
Guest
« on: December 05, 2006, 04:27:39 pm »

OK - There are several threads floating around and I figured it would be good to try and compile a single list of peoples speeds during Peak hours and Off Peak as well.

Could I please ask that discussion about speeds continue in other threads but we simply report speed tests as detailed below in this one so that the network guys can review this and get a picture of what is happening.

For consistency in all results could we all post the following info:

1) The Time the tests were taken and the Product you are on.

2) The Gateway in use (this can be found by visiting http://usertools.plus.net/@gateway)

3) A tracert to bbc.co.uk

4) Speedtests taken from http://www.speedtest.net using the Derby and the London Servers (post the images using the links they provide)

5) Using either DUMeter or NetMeter (setup exe linked) show the graph when downloading the PUG Al Wyse Interview (it's sat on our server and if we all download the same file it should give a consistent image - remember to clear your cache before downloading this if you have already watched it - which I'm sure you will have done Wink)

6) Post Router stats / synch speed where possible!

7) Also post any other information that may be relevant.


For the sake of collating info - any posts off topic will be moved elsewhere. I just think that it will be good to get as many people to provide as much info as possible - all relating to the same set of tests.



« Last Edit: December 05, 2006, 05:02:28 pm by wildmind »
wildmind
Guest
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2006, 04:56:15 pm »

Time: 16:35
Product: PlusNet Premier Option 1 (No restrictions)
Gateway: PTE-AG1
Code:
Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.0.0.2
  2    28 ms    32 ms    25 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.64]
  3    23 ms    28 ms    25 ms  ge0-0-0-403.pte-gw2.plus.net [84.92.4.2]
  4     *       28 ms    27 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    29 ms    32 ms    24 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    32 ms    23 ms    29 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    29 ms    23 ms    27 ms  212.58.238.149
  8    24 ms    26 ms    29 ms  212.58.238.36
  9    29 ms    30 ms    28 ms  pos6-0.rt1.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.254]
 10    31 ms    28 ms    24 ms  virtual0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
Derby:

London:

PRTG Graph for Video download is attached.
Current line stats are:
Code:
SPEED   4256kbps  / 448kbps
SNR 8.0 dB / 8.5 dB
ATEN 46  dB / 23  dB

dtomlinson
Plusnet Staff

Posts: 2156


« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 05:42:43 pm »

Staff Broadband = Premier Option 1

Running over remote desktop, the Derby and London testers don't work properly this way but http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/ gives 4853kbps

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.83]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    25 ms    22 ms    22 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag2.plus.net [195.166.128.72]
  3    26 ms    22 ms    21 ms  ge0-0-0-504.pte-gw2.plus.net [84.92.4.90]
  4    23 ms    22 ms    26 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    24 ms    22 ms    22 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    23 ms    21 ms    22 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    25 ms    22 ms    26 ms  212.58.238.149
  8    23 ms    21 ms    25 ms  www53.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.83]

Will try it again and the rest when I get home.

Regards,

Dave Tomlinson
PlusNet Support
sdp

Posts: 1

« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2006, 05:50:58 pm »

17:26, Premier Option 1. pte-ag1

 
Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.89]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  t1
  2    65 ms    44 ms    47 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.64]
  3    69 ms    52 ms    52 ms  ge0-0-0-403.pte-gw2.plus.net [84.92.4.2]
  4    61 ms    40 ms    57 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    61 ms    58 ms    44 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    64 ms    47 ms    50 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    43 ms    44 ms    43 ms  212.58.238.149
  8    60 ms    41 ms    40 ms  www.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.89]

Trace complete.


Derby

London


Router stats:
Us Rate (Kbps) 448
Ds Rate (Kbps) 6656 (BRAS = 5500)
US Margin 27
DS Margin 6


The wmv download goes at ~40kbps.

cs51oh

Posts: 12

« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2006, 05:55:16 pm »

We as a business customer looking to move elsewhere - we can't carry on like this... Please let me know if you'd like anymore tests done.

PlusNet Business Premier up to 8Mb

DownStream Connection Speed 8128 kbps
UpStream Connection Speed 832 kbps

Guildford Exchange - Green Light, BRAS profile: 8000

Connected straight to router with no other traffic

Results taken at: 17:58

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/
Download Speed: 996 kbps (124.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 590 kbps (73.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html
Speed Up 260.15 Kbps ( 0.3 Mbps )
Speed Down 796.90 Kbps ( 0.8 Mbps )

http://www.speedtest.net/


C:\Documents and Settings\Oliver Hicks>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    13 ms    10 ms    15 ms  lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag2.plus.net [195.166.128.53]
  3    11 ms    10 ms     9 ms  ge1-0-0-204.ptn-gw2.plus.net [84.92.3.106]
  4    10 ms    11 ms     9 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  5     9 ms    11 ms    10 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  6    10 ms    10 ms    13 ms  212.58.238.149
  7    12 ms    10 ms    10 ms  212.58.238.33
  8    13 ms    22 ms    10 ms  pos6-0.rt0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.30]
  9    10 ms    15 ms    21 ms  virtual0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Oliver Hicks>

« Last Edit: December 05, 2006, 05:57:10 pm by cs51oh »
Moose

Posts: 31

« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2006, 06:01:03 pm »

Time 17.50
Product BB+
Gateway ptn-ag1

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.240.34]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    35 ms    47 ms    43 ms  lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.123]
  3    37 ms    37 ms    35 ms  ge0-0-0-103.ptn-gw1.plus.net [84.92.3.17]
  4    35 ms    34 ms    36 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  5    38 ms    35 ms    35 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  6    35 ms    38 ms    41 ms  212.58.238.133
  7    39 ms    35 ms    36 ms  212.58.238.33
  8   108 ms   108 ms   113 ms  212.58.255.193
  9   111 ms   109 ms   111 ms  www4.thny.bbc.co.uk [212.58.240.34]

Trace complete.



URL=http://www.speedtest.net][/URL]

Sync speed 2752   stable rate 2500

Connection Status         Connected
Us Rate (Kbps)         448
Ds Rate (Kbps)         2752
US Margin         20
DS Margin         12

will download that file in a while

Browsing is very slow, streaming is buffering every 10 secs or so, Gaming is very laggy

Stuart.
OldDave

Posts: 17

« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2006, 06:16:34 pm »

17:29 PAYG 15GB Special offer
Gateway PTN-AG1
route to www.bbc.co.uk
  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  mygateway.ar7 [192.168.1.1]
  2    16 ms    25 ms    12 ms  lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.123]
  3    13 ms    25 ms    12 ms  ge0-0-0-103.ptn-gw1.plus.net [84.92.3.17]
  4    13 ms    13 ms    16 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  5    13 ms    23 ms    12 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  6    16 ms    12 ms    15 ms  212.58.238.149
  7    18 ms    12 ms    15 ms  212.58.238.33
  8    85 ms    85 ms    86 ms  212.58.255.193
  9    87 ms    86 ms    84 ms  www.bbc.co.uk [212.58.240.120]





Router Stats
Speed 8128 /448
Margin  6/27
Attn 29/25
julesp1970

Posts: 4

« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2006, 06:26:20 pm »

Speedtests:-





Gateway:-

[bold]You are currently connected to the "Telehouse East, Juniper 3" gateway. This gateway is sometimes known as pte-ag1.[/bold]


Tracert:-

[bold]
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Julie & Jim>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    25 ms    25 ms    24 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.64]
  3    36 ms    23 ms    24 ms  ge0-0-0-403.pte-gw2.plus.net [84.92.4.2]
  4    24 ms    22 ms    22 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    25 ms    28 ms    24 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    25 ms    22 ms    26 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    23 ms    26 ms    23 ms  212.58.238.149
  8    24 ms    27 ms    23 ms  www5.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.35]

Trace complete.[/bold]


router stats;-

[bold]Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 295467 384896 0 172 1260 89:32:28
LAN 10M/100M 409953 327466 0 1278 201 89:33:50
WLAN 11M/54M 0 0 0 0 0 00:00:00
 

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 5536 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 31.0 db 18.0 db
Noise Margin 7.4 db 22.0 db [/bold]

as for doing the Video link it wouldn't work.

Using Plus.net DSL Max Plus
 







maz6486

Posts: 1

« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2006, 06:28:46 pm »

Product:- PAYG
Time :- 17.50-18.20
Gateway :- pte-ag1.

Router Stats

Type Fast
Status No Defect
                 Downstream     Upstream   
Data rate (Kbps)   3968           448 
Noise margin (dB)   5.1          20.0 
Output power (dBm) 18.9          11.8 
Attenuation (dB)   44.0          27.0 

Stable Rate :- 3000


Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.0.0.138
  2    15 ms    13 ms    13 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.64]
  3    13 ms    14 ms    13 ms  ge0-0-0-403.pte-gw2.plus.net [84.92.4.2]
  4    14 ms    12 ms    13 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    14 ms    12 ms    14 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    13 ms    14 ms    14 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    18 ms    13 ms    13 ms  212.58.238.133
  8    17 ms    14 ms    13 ms  212.58.238.36
  9    14 ms    15 ms    16 ms  pos6-0.rt1.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.254]
 10    14 ms    14 ms    16 ms  virtual0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]

Trace complete.





I'm on a rural exchange and was originally told ADSL was out of reach. When I was MAX'd my Speedtouch 510 router was reconnecting upto 90 times a day and the connection was unusable. Read around a bit and bought a Belkin 7633 to replace it and connection has been rock steady since.

Hope this info helps.

Mark


LC100

Posts: 283

« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2006, 06:34:45 pm »

Hi

Seems better today so far, on LLU PAYG, router syncs ADSL2+ at 8156/620, gateway thn-ag1.



Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.124]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  my.router [192.168.0.1]
  2    37 ms    37 ms    33 ms  lo0-plusnet.thn-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.80]
  3    33 ms    39 ms    34 ms  vl303.thn-gw1.plus.net [84.92.3.177]
  4    34 ms    36 ms    33 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    34 ms    37 ms    35 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    35 ms    35 ms    34 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    35 ms    33 ms    34 ms  212.58.238.149
  8    35 ms    33 ms    36 ms  www.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.124]
jelv1

Posts: 2130

« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2006, 06:35:03 pm »

PAYG 8M solid sync - stable rate 8000

Gateway: ptn-ag2

Code:
Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  dg834 [192.168.0.1]
  2    16 ms    13 ms    20 ms  lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag2.plus.net [195.166.128.53]
  3    18 ms    11 ms    11 ms  ge1-0-0-204.ptn-gw2.plus.net [84.92.3.106]
  4    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  5    15 ms    14 ms    17 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  6    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  212.58.238.133
  7    11 ms    14 ms    12 ms  212.58.238.36
  8    14 ms    16 ms    12 ms  pos6-0.rt1.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.254]
  9    13 ms    14 ms    15 ms  virtual0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]







jelv
fenlandbroadband

Posts: 176

« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2006, 06:52:38 pm »

18:42 5th December 2006   

PlusNet Premier Option 1, Max 8Mbps.

Telehouse East, Juniper 4

Code:
Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    13 ms    14 ms    14 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag2.plus.net [195.166.128.72]
  3    13 ms    14 ms    12 ms  ge0-0-0-504.pte-gw1.plus.net [84.92.4.89]
  4    13 ms    17 ms    13 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    15 ms    12 ms    13 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    13 ms    12 ms    13 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    15 ms     *       13 ms  212.58.238.133
  8    13 ms    15 ms    13 ms  www40.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.85]

Trace complete.





5) are either of these full/free? I've heard of both but thought they were both shareware/trials?

DSL Status :   Up     
DSL Modulation Mode :   GDMT     
DSL Path Mode :   FAST     
Downstream Rate :   8128 Kbps     
Upstream Rate :   448 Kbps     
Downstream Margin :   11 db     
Upstream Margin :   22 db     
Downstream Line Attenuation :   8     
Upstream Line Attenuation :   6

Exchange is "green" on the Usertools checker.

BT Speedtest using speedtest@speedtest_domain login at 18:49 gave

5587Kbps
chesterfield

Posts: 38

« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2006, 06:54:19 pm »

1) Time and product: Tuesday 5th dec 18.30pm, Located in Chesterfield, on BB+

2) The Gateway in use: PTN-AG1

3) A tracert to bbc.co.uk:

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    46 ms    41 ms    40 ms  lo0-plusnet.ptn-ag1.plus.net [195.166.1
  3    43 ms    41 ms    41 ms  ge0-0-0-103.ptn-gw2.plus.net [84.92.3.1
  4    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  5    40 ms    41 ms    41 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  6    42 ms    42 ms    43 ms  212.58.238.149
  7    41 ms    43 ms    43 ms  212.58.238.36
  8    43 ms    43 ms    45 ms  pos6-0.rt1.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.254
  9    43 ms    42 ms    44 ms  virtual0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]

4) Speedtests taken from http://www.speedtest.net using the Derby and the London Servers (post the images using the links they provide):

DERBY:


LONDON:


5) Using either DUMeter or NetMeter:


Cant be bothered to download the entire thing, but heres about 5 minutes worth.

6) Post Router stats / synch speed where possible!:

Downstream connection speed: 4064 kbps
Upstream Connection speed: 448 kbps
Noise Margin: 6.2 db down, 19db up
Attenuation 57db down, 30db up

7) Also post any other information that may be relevant.

I have been informed that a Network Engineer at PN has acknowledged the Ellacoyas cannot process packets fast enough during full load, hence the latency we experience as gamers.
Firejack

Posts: 19

« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2006, 07:09:36 pm »

Time: 19:00
Product: Premier Option 1
Gateway: pte-ag1
Code:
C:\Documents and Settings\Andrew>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.126]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.2.70
  2    31 ms    27 ms    24 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.64]
  3    26 ms    26 ms    26 ms  ge0-0-0-403.pte-gw2.plus.net [84.92.4.2]
  4    28 ms    28 ms    25 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    26 ms    27 ms    26 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    27 ms    25 ms    26 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    26 ms    25 ms    27 ms  212.58.238.149
  8    29 ms    43 ms    26 ms  www26.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.126]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Andrew>






Code:
Modem Status
  Connection Status Connected
  Upstream Rate (Kbps) 448
  Downstream Rate (Kbps) 4768
  US Margin 21
  DS Margin 2
  Modulation GDMT
  LOS Errors 0
  DS Line Attenuation 48
  US Line Attenuation 54
  Path Mode Interleaved

Exchange: Chester North (Red Status)
jnwright

Posts: 36

« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2006, 07:11:04 pm »

Time: 18:33 onwards

Product: Premier Option 1.

Gateway: pte-ag1

Tracert to bbc.co.uk:

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    47 ms    45 ms    50 ms  lo0-plusnet.pte-ag1.plus.net [195.166.128.64]
  3    69 ms    44 ms    44 ms  ge0-0-0-403.pte-gw2.plus.net [84.92.4.2]
  4    45 ms    46 ms    46 ms  ge0-0-0-22.ptn-gw1.plus.net [212.159.4.1]
  5    46 ms    46 ms    48 ms  gi1-1-22.ptn-gw5.plus.net [212.159.4.6]
  6    46 ms    47 ms    46 ms  rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.25]
  7    48 ms    48 ms    47 ms  212.58.238.133
  8    46 ms    47 ms    45 ms  212.58.238.36
  9    47 ms    47 ms    49 ms  pos6-0.rt1.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.254]
 10    47 ms    48 ms    45 ms  virtual0.mh.bbc.co.uk [212.58.228.155]

Trace complete.

Derby:



London:



AL Wyse interview:



Router stats:

US bit rate: 448 kbps interleaved
DS bit rate: 8128 kbps interleaved
US noise margin upstream: 26 db
DS noise margin downstream: 11 db
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